Avengers: Endgame - Why Thor Reunited With Frigga, Not Jane Foster
Thor was in bad shape in Avengers: Endgame and the writers explain why he didn't need to see Jane.
Thor was in a very bad place in Avengers: Endgame. While he started out as a very angry God of Thunder, after he chopped off Thanos' head, he ended up regressing, becoming depressed and letting himself go as he sat around drinking mead and playing video games.
Thor's regression from the self-assured warrior into someone who just wanted to sit on the couch and do nothing is why he met his mother Frigga when he traveled back in time, notably not having a moment with Jane Foster.
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Thor had a ton of problems in Avengers: Endgame, but girl trouble was not one of them. In Thor: Ragnarok, viewers learned that Thor and Jane were no longer dating and that was the end of that. In Avengers: Endgame, they needed to get the Aether from Jane, but it was Rocket who did it instead of Thor.
According to co-writers Stephen McFeely and Christopher Markus, there was no reason to add girl troubles to the rest of Thor's problems. Markus said in an interview with Empire that it was also important not to add Odin to the story because the last thing the MCU needed was "more father issues."
Thor was a mess and had no direction, and when someone is in that bad of shape, they need their mother. Since Thor's mom died shortly after the moment they arrived in the past, this was his only -- and last -- chance to get to speak to Frigga again. As a good mother would, Frigga told Thor exactly what he needed to hear to become a warrior once again -- bluntly, but with love.
“He had some Jane Foster time in one draft," Markus said. "But that didn't seem like his issue. He's reduced to a childlike state in his cabin over there in Norway, and he needed advice from his mom, basically. Someone needs to go, 'You're OK. You're a f--- up, and you're OK.”
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Directed by Joe and Anthony Russo, Avengers: Endgame stars Robert Downey Jr. as Iron Man, Chris Evans as Captain America, Mark Ruffalo as Bruce Banner, Chris Hemsworth as Thor, Scarlett Johansson as Black Widow, Jeremy Renner as Hawkeye, Brie Larson as Captain Marvel, Paul Rudd as Ant-Man, Don Cheadle as War Machine, Karen Gillan as Nebula, Danai Gurira as Okoye and Bradley Cooper as Rocket, with Gwyneth Paltrow Pepper Potts, Jon Favreau as Happy Hogan, Benedict Wong as Wong, Tessa Thompson as Valkyrie and Josh Brolin as Thanos. The film is in theaters now.
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Marvel Comics character
Frigga (sometimes called Freyja) is a fictional character appearing in American comic books published by Marvel Comics. The character appears in particular in those featuring the superhero Thor, who is Frigga's son. Based on both Frigg and Freyja of Norse mythology, she was created by writers Stan Lee and Robert Bernstein and artist Joe Sinnott, and first appeared in Journey into Mystery #92 (May 1963).
Rene Russo portrayed the character in the Marvel Cinematic Universe films Thor (2011), Thor: The Dark World (2013), and Avengers: Endgame (2019).
Frigga first appeared in Journey into Mystery #92 (May 1963), and was adapted from mythology by Stan Lee, Robert Bernstein and Joe Sinnott.
The character subsequently appeared in Thor Annual #10 (1982), Thor #344 (June 1984), Marvel Graphic Novel #15 - The Raven Banner (1985), Journey Into Mystery #504-505 (December 1996-January 1997), #512-513 (September–October 1997), Thor #26 (August 2000), Loki #3 (January 2004), and Thor: Son of Asgard #7&9 (August 2004-October 2004) .
Frigga appeared as part of the "Asgardians" entry in the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe Deluxe Edition #1.
Fictional character biography
An Asgardian, she is both Queen of Asgard, and the Asgardian gods, the wife of Odin, the step-mother of Thor, the biological mother of Balder, and the adoptive mother of Loki. She is also sometimes described to be a Vanir goddess, as opposed to her husband, who is of the Aesir tribe. She is also the one responsible for casting the spells on Balder to protect him from mortal harm. When Surtur the fire demon threatens all the known realms, Frigga is assigned the guardianship of the children of Asgard. They retreat to a hostel deep in the wintry wilderness of Asgard. Though Frigga does not know it, she is assisted in her guarding by Tiwaz, the great-grandfather of Thor. After Odin and Surtur vanish at the end of the battle, Frigga organizes an 'Althing', where all of Asgard will choose a new ruler. The result is that Balder is chosen as the new ruler.[volume & issue needed]
In addition, Frigga had supervised the location and training of the apprentices to the Celestials, the Young Gods.[volume & issue needed] Because of the events of Ragnarok, Frigga is believed to have suffered the same fate as the rest of the Asgardians.
After Thor recreates Asgard and restores the Asgardians following Ragnarok, it is revealed that she is actually the mother of Balder.
During the "War of the Realms" storyline, Frigga is seen fighting against Malekith's assassins which attracts the attention of Spider-Man. Spider-Man helps defeat most of Malekith's assassins, while Frigga is slightly annoyed by Spider-Man's talking. Sif and her Valkyries meet up with Frigga as most of the Asgardians live on Earth as refugees. As Laufey appears and is about to eat Frigga, Loki arrives and saves his adopted mother. As the superheroes and Asgardians fight the forces of Malekith, Frigga is struggling in her fight against the Queen of Angels. Frigga later makes Jane Foster the All-Mother of Asgard. While resting their injuries, Frigga asks Captain America to assemble a group to help get Thor back. Frigga then leads a team consisting of Blade impersonating a Dark Elf, She-Hulk impersonating a Rock Troll, Ghost Rider posing as a Fire Goblin, and Punisher impersonating a Dark Elf to Svartalheim in order to destroy the Dark Bifrost Bridge. Frigga's group is met with Dark Elves and Punisher opens fire on them. Frigga's group arrives at the Dark Bifrost Bridge, but Frigga realized that the Bifrost Bridge has been destroyed and changes plans in protecting the Dark Bifrost. Frigga grabs the sword that houses the Black Bifrost Bridge, and barely managed to retain her humanity. She sends Punisher to the Light Elves, She-Hulk to Nidavellir (Home of the Dwarves), Blade to Vanaheim (home of the Vanir Gods), and Ghost Rider to Niffleheim (the Land of the Dead) to recruit more allies. Frigga hears that Valkyrie is dead, Captain Marvel and the Agents of Atlas are fighting Fire Goblins in China, the Venom symbiote is being tortured by Malekith, Thor is recuperating, and Laufey is at the ruins of the Statue of Liberty swatting fighter jets. Frigga is busy fighting off the endless hordes when Malekith throws the Venom symbiote as a spear at Frigga's stomach. Before he could kill her, Odin arrives in his new armor and buys time for Frigga to destroy the Black Bifrost Bridge where its blast seemingly kills them both while defeating Malekith's forces. The two of them survived and are held captive by Malekith at Stonehenge. Frigga states to Malekith that he should flee while he still can as Malekith plans to cause the death of Thor. Odin tells Frigga to pray to Thor.
In other media
- Frigga appears in The Super Hero Squad Show animated series episode "Lo! How the Mighty Have Abdicated", voiced by Grey DeLisle.
- Frigga in her Freya alias appears in the Avengers Assemble animated series episode "Downgraded", voiced by Jennifer Hale. This version was the leader of the Vanir of Vanaheim, who used a "Great Light" on top of their village to keep the Shadow Nixes at bay. While attempting to reignite it, she encountered Hawkeye and Falcon, who helped her do so and drive the Shadow Nixes away.
Frigga appears in live-action films set in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, portrayed by Rene Russo. This version is portrayed as Thor's biological mother.
- Frigga is introduced in Thor (2011).
- Russo reprises her role in Thor: The Dark World (2013). Following Loki's imprisonment, Frigga shows sympathy to him by attempting to make his incarceration more hospitable. During the Dark Elves' raid on Asgard, Frigga is killed by Algrim while protecting Jane Foster, and is later given a Viking funeral.
- Frigga appears in an alternate timeline in Avengers: Endgame. In an alternate 2013, Thor runs into Frigga in Asgard, who realizes her son has come from the future. Following a heart-to-heart talk, he tries to warn her about her impending death, but she refuses to hear it, saying she accepts her future and he should focus on fixing his.
Frigga appears in the motion comicThor & Loki: Blood Brothers, voiced by Deborah Jane McKinley.
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Thor knows Frigga’s death is impending, but where Thetis couldn’t do anything about fate, Frigga has seen it and is comfortable with where her story ends.
In her limited time in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, Frigga has always been the nurturing mother. Though she’s noted to be a strong fighter, her role was to console her sons, Thor and Loki, and defend them to Odin. When Thor is nervous before his coronation in the first movie, she calms him down. After Odin banishes him, she rebukes her husband.
When Loki is imprisoned and it’s declared forbidden to visit him, she still goes to him through a hologram. After her conversation with Loki, Thor asks her if she regrets teaching him magic, to which she replies: “No. You and your father cast large shadows. I had hoped that by sharing my gifts with Loki that he could find some sun for himself.”
If her clairvoyance is canon, it could mean that beyond having a motherly optimism about Loki’s nature, Frigga knew that in giving him magic, she would be creating the conditions for her own death, since it’s Loki that brings the Dark Elves to Asgard. But even with the knowledge, she couldn’t abandon her son.
It’s hard to praise Frigga for her role without inevitably praising the gender stereotypes that saw her be a minor character whose identity was tied to nurturing her sons. But her scene with Thor in Endgame is a wonderful representation of the best mother-and-son relationship and her importance to his story, even while she's barely in it. That relationship is also why, in his lowest moments, Thor had to see his mother and not his father, who had played a much more prominent role in his story.
Thor is a classic mama’s boy. His complicated relationship with Odin is based on the dynamic of admiration and competition. He idolizes his father and wants to be like, or even better than, him. In the first movies, this admiration and trying to live up to his father is what drives his development. It’s the burden that he sheds at the end of Ragnarok, when Odin helps him embrace his full power.
There’s an emotional distance that comes with a relationship based on idolization and strength. When Thor needs to be stronger, it’s his father that he talks to. It’s his father who drives him as a leader and as a warrior. But he’s also a person of emotions. Sometimes he needs to be consoled, not driven to more power. Odin can’t do that for him.
The particular importance about the conversation that Thor has with Frigga is that she’s not telling him to be stronger or to work harder, or reminding him that he’s king of Asgard; she listens to him, and then tells him that he’s a failure. Absolutely. She tells him that he probably won’t live up to the idea that he has of himself, which is based on him trying to live up to his father, but that’s all right. He doesn’t need to. Most people never live up to what others see them as, or even their own ideal self. It’s not advice that could be expected to come from a conversation with Odin.
Thor’s change in Endgame doesn’t come from a climactic moment where he reaches a new power level. His problem was one of giving his best and failing, and needing someone who could listen to him without judgment. Someone who didn’t have the image of him as Thor, god of thunder, the strongest Avenger, the king of Asgard, or the chosen son. Frigga allows him to be vulnerable in a way that he can’t with anyone else.
Thor needed his mother, who saw him as he really is, her son who's full of nerves and anxieties and who is trying his best to live up to incredibly high expectations. It’s because she truly knows him better than anyone else that her consolation allows him to forgive himself for his failure.
It’s a testament to the power of art that even in such a blockbuster like Endgame, which deals with so much surface-level emotionality, such a profound relationship can find itself showcased. It felt bizarre at first to see Thor almost having a panic attack at seeing his mother, considering that she never had a huge role in his movies. It seemed like the scene was even setting him up to have an encounter with his former girlfriend, Jane. But as any mama’s boy will tell you, the best way to deal with and cure the worst sadness and feelings of failure is to curl up with your mother and have her tell you that things will be all right. That goes from the smallest of us to the strongest Avenger.
Endgame: How Frigga Knew Fat Thor Was From The Future
Avengers: Endgame's time heist gave Thor the chance to reunite with his mom; here's how Frigga immediately knew her son was from the future.
Here's how Frigga immediately knew that Thor was from the future in Avengers: Endgame. The idea for time travel first came about through Ant-Man after he was trapped in the Quantum Realm following Thanos' snap in Avengers: Infinity War. Thanks to Tony Stark's supplemental findings, the remaining heroes were able to go back to certain points in MCU's history to acquire the Infinity Stones before the Mad Titan got his hands on them. Aside from the mission, however, it also allowed some of the characters to reconcile with their past and reunite with some of the most important people in their lives as the God of Thunder did.
After his catastrophic failure to stop Thanos from executing random genocide all over the universe, he took their loss in Infinity War personally. The realization that there's no way to reverse the snap further broke his spirit. By the time Endgame picked up five years later, Thor was in poor physical and mental shape that he was just going through the motions as his fellow heroes refine their plan for the time heist. In the end, he was partnered up with Rocket Raccoon, and together, they were tasked with returning to the events of Thor: The Dark World to retrieve the Reality Stone.
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Thor was already an emotional wreck throughout the whole time heist mission, but it got considerably worse when he spotted his mother, who was hours away from her death at that point. The goal was to quickly and quietly snatch the Reality Stone, but due to the God of Thunder's unstable condition, Frigga caught him sneaking around. Thor tried to conceal the fact that he was from a different timeline, but Frigga knew right away that he was lying and called his bluff, leaving him no choice but to admit that he was from the future. Granted that Thor looked physically different in Endgame, but there's actually another reason why the then-Queen of Asgard knew the truth and it has something to do with Frigga being raised by witches.
As revealed in Doctor Strange, sorcerers are able to look into the future as the Ancient One (Tilda Swinton) did. This is the reason why she knew that Stephen Strange (Benedict Cumberbatch) is destined to be the best Sorcerer Supreme as early as 2012, years before the neurosurgeon's accident. This ability was in full display in Infinity War when Doctor Strange looked into what lies ahead with their impending fight against Thanos. Since Frigga was raised by witches as she told Thor, chances are that she knew that they have this specific ability, leading to the belief that that time traveling is also entirely possible. In addition, this could explain why Loki (Tom Hiddleston) was also aware of this as he mentioned in Thor: Ragnarok; he always had a closer relationship with his adoptive mother and it's possible that he learned about the idea from Frigga.
The ability to meddle with time in any capacity is a tricky thing to tackle. The specifics of time travel is already murky in the MCU, and if they continue to make it a central idea in the franchise, it's only going to be more complicated to the point that it could ruin its established continuity. While it was needed to make Avengers: Endgame's narrativework, it would be best if Marvel Studios veer away from the concept in the near future.
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Key Release Dates
- Black Widow (2021)Release date: Jul 09, 2021
- Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings (2021)Release date: Sep 03, 2021
- Eternals (2021)Release date: Nov 05, 2021
- Spider-Man: No Way Home (2021)Release date: Dec 17, 2021
- Thor: Love and Thunder (2022)Release date: May 06, 2022
- Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness (2022)Release date: Mar 25, 2022
- Black Panther: Wakanda Forever/Black Panther 2 (2022)Release date: Jul 08, 2022
- The Marvels/Captain Marvel 2 (2022)Release date: Nov 11, 2022
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